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Scott Davis
11-29-2008, 08:53 PM
What is the proper method of bagging downspouts? What kind of bags work best, what kind of tape to tape it to the downspout, how to dispose of it, etc...

Ive never done it before, but have a hotel Im doing tomorrow and I think bagging would really be a good idea.

Thanks.

Carlos Gonzales
11-30-2008, 12:26 AM
Bagging downspouts...mmm...not sure what you mean by bagging and tape?

Talk to me goose......:confused:

plainpainter
11-30-2008, 12:45 AM
Carlos - he is refering to catching roof cleaning chems and preventing them from coming down the downspouts.

The way I do it is to purchase those extra strong contractors grade trash bags you buy at home depot or lowe's. And then I use duct tape to tape the bags to the downspouts. I don't tape directly to the downspout - I wrap the bag onto itself - and then tape around tightly so the bag is held tightly in place, yet the tape isn't actually touching the metal.

Scott Davis
11-30-2008, 01:17 AM
Carlos - he is refering to catching roof cleaning chems and preventing them from coming down the downspouts.

The way I do it is to purchase those extra strong contractors grade trash bags you buy at home depot or lowe's. And then I use duct tape to tape the bags to the downspouts. I don't tape directly to the downspout - I wrap the bag onto itself - and then tape around tightly so the bag is held tightly in place, yet the tape isn't actually touching the metal.

its a tile roof. Do the bags usually fill up quickly? I dont want to have to empty the bags 10 times.

Chad Johnson
11-30-2008, 08:23 AM
Dont really know for sure but it depends on how steep the roof is and how much mix you use.
Are you using alot of soap to make your solution stick well? Thus less runoff. Those things will come into play a bit.
I dont bag the downspouts but whenever I do roofs I just notice alot of foam.

Carlos Gonzales
11-30-2008, 09:28 AM
Gotcha...and I suspect the reason for this is to NOT allow the chems down in the gravity flow drain system which ultimately drains out to the curb in front of the house which in turn discharges to a common drain system aka as a sewer drain?

Fair enough...even an old dog can learn a new trick.

Okay, so let me ask this ~ why not just sand bag the hole at the downspout...allow the water and chems to "spill" over at the gutters if you will? Your ground guy is rinsing continuousy from the gutters down making sure that the chems on constantly moving down the house with a final destination into a landscaped area that was totally presoaked with water at the beginning of the job?

Chad Johnson
11-30-2008, 10:40 AM
Gotcha...and I suspect the reason for this is to NOT allow the chems down in the gravity flow drain system which ultimately drains out to the curb in front of the house which in turn discharges to a common drain system aka as a sewer drain? Thats correct, but mostly to not let any of the solution to run off into the grass or landscape Around here most people arent to worried about runoff to a drain unless your doing a commercial property.
Fair enough...even an old dog can learn a new trick.

Okay, so let me ask this ~ why not just sand bag the hole at the downspout...allow the water and chems to "spill" over at the gutters if you will? Your ground guy is rinsing continuousy from the gutters down making sure that the chems on constantly moving down the house with a final destination into a landscaped area that was totally presoaked with water at the beginning of the job?
You could do that if you wanted. I just water down the area where the downspout stops to again- prevent the runoff from killing any grass or lanscape. Sometimes I get lucky and the down spout has a corrogated pipe connected to it that runs underground to a low spot away from the property.
That is another thing you could do as well. Connect a piece of that pipe to the down spout and run it away from the house to a different location, instead of using garbage bags, if the lay out of the property allows you to do that. Different stokes. Good luck with what ever you decide to do.

David Vicars
11-30-2008, 11:01 AM
The main reason for bagging the downspouts, is so your mix doesn't soak
into the ground and kill the landscaping at the roots.

I normally stuff a garden hose in the end of the downspout when I arrive to flood the area.

Los, if you sand bag the downspout at the top you are going to have a hell of
mess on the house and making alot of unnessesary work for ground man.

cleanhoods
11-30-2008, 12:08 PM
I acually done that before but what i done was take the spout apart and placed a 55 gal trash can to catch run of.It would take longer to rinse the parking lot then just to catch an dispose. If spout is high use trash bags or polly film to direct the flow held on by duck tape>and like was said dont tape on metal tape to plastic tight. Or you can go to lowes and pick up some of the black fex pipe to direct the run of were ever you want a plus for that it is reuseable
Marko

Scott Davis
11-30-2008, 03:27 PM
Thanks for the replys guys. heres a little more infomration about the job. The down spouts are about every 10 or so feet around the whole building, and it is a tile roof. Most of them empty onto concrete, which is very dirty, and I do not want my ground guy to have to try and dilute it as it is running onto the concrete and I def. dont want it to clean the concrete in streaks.

I know I know, sell the concrete right? Well they have a maintenance guy who does it every year for $200, and he does a pretty good job, so they wont spend the extra money.

Anyways, We did the Hotel today and the bagging worked great. They only filled up maybe 1/5 full and we just dumped them and washed em away.

Marko mentioned using tubing to divert. Here is a link to a company posted by Dave Stauffer for some cool plastic tubing you can just measure how much you need and cut it. http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=USPlastic&category%5Fname=86&product%5Fid=19430&MSCSProfile=95385A1F52DEA1A229D5B37542054464D389DD CEC9D3E3A99082E17720C554E0A90BEFC24FCF9F8C6E173EC0 B0160C277CE125049DF3B135594B4B66F379774F82CC21E54F 636DAD3760226EB6CB0D139393A12711A980D57348BE8E33B8 9F0121E88C19C914DB4836BFCA3FBE307D3761693E7FBC61BF B81C07EFA0F857064085565B511CBACBA0

DJ Carroll
11-30-2008, 07:29 PM
Scott I bad all down spouts when i do roofs . . . I bought one roll of contractor trash bags from wally world, i just slide them up the gutters no need for tape. . . dump em out when your down and put all of them in to one bag and you can use them over and over . . . .

Ryan Freidline
01-27-2009, 07:24 PM
Glad it worked Scott, cool link on the plastic tubes!

Chris Tucker
11-01-2010, 09:37 PM
The plastic tubes are a great idea! Here are some bagging downspout pics, FWIW. This a a church we did33463347334833493348

Ron Musgraves
11-02-2010, 12:45 AM
Great Photos Chris

Russ Spence
11-02-2010, 07:50 AM
So what are you doing with the love after you catch it?

Pretty important question these days in my area.

Ron Musgraves
11-02-2010, 09:30 PM
So what are you doing with the love after you catch it?

Pretty important question these days in my area.


He never throws it away!!

Chris Tucker
11-03-2010, 12:58 PM
So what are you doing with the love after you catch it?

Pretty important question these days in my area.
How do they say it about Gay's in the service ? Don't ask, don't tell, LOL
But seriously, we have pumped it out of the bags before, back into the tanks, or we have used it to chemically wash concrete.
I was told it also makes a great BBQ marinade ? But I don't care for the taste of TSP .....

Ya know what we really need Russ and Ron ? A portable, easy to erect, roof cleaning chemical collection/recovery system!
It could easily pay for itself in chemical savings, and happy customers.

Chris Apple
11-03-2010, 09:45 PM
Ive been working on a patent for this system.

Russ Spence
11-04-2010, 07:26 AM
Ive been working on a patent for this system.


I really like the funnel, where on earth did you find one like it!

David Vicars
11-04-2010, 10:58 AM
Looks like he has two. He must buy them in bulk.

Chris Apple
11-04-2010, 07:48 PM
I really like the funnel, where on earth did you find one like it!

Corner of Cherry and 6th St.

Kidding!

Doug Rucker
02-13-2012, 08:36 AM
We dont bag, we use 5 gallon buckets. Much easier.

Doug Rucker
02-13-2012, 08:38 AM
Like this........

cmturner
02-14-2012, 01:57 AM
So Doug have you all ever tried reusing roof mix.

I havn't tried the bucket thing but I think I will try it. My siphon tube for my roof mix has a screen on the end of it so it should filter pretty good if I tried reusing it.

Doug Rucker
02-14-2012, 06:13 AM
No, never tried reusing it, really haven't needed to. I have heard some guy's do that thought. Just kinda feel like I am putting the dirt and mold and mildew back on the roof.

Landis Roof Cleaning
02-14-2012, 07:23 PM
We do the same thing with the buckets as Doug. However when we are on larger products, we take the run off from the buckets and pour them from the peak of the roof on sections we have not cleaned yet. Kinda of like a pre-treat, then do our normal spraying over that. We only do this for large projects like townhouse or apartment buildings where run off starts to accumulate. The way we pour it, it doesn't even reach back down to the gutter edge. It's less run off we take home from the job.

I wouldn't try re-using it by running it back through the pump.

Ron Musgraves
01-29-2013, 01:11 AM
Great Move Doug

AC Lockyer
02-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Nerf Balls & Gutter Cane! Easiest way yet.

1. Place Nerf ball into gutter down spout to plug the gutter.
2. Then place Gutter Cane in gutter to massively overflow the gutter and massively dilute the chemicals.
3. Neutralize chems with Plant Wash.

Divert, Dilute and Decontaminate. The Three D's work every time.

Never plant burn, never grass damage, all chems gone from gutters.

Hope this helps,

AC

AC Lockyer
02-08-2013, 09:42 AM
The plastic tubes are a great idea! Here are some bagging downspout pics, FWIW. This a a church we did33463347334833493348

This technique doesn't assure all chems are gone from gutter and gives a FALSE sense of security. Ive also seen pin holes in bags leave cute little squiggly lines of burnt grass from the gutter to the truck where the bags were disposed of.

AC

Cameron Queen
02-08-2013, 08:00 PM
3. Neutralize chems with Plant Wash.

Plant Wash? Sorry to be a noob but I'm not familiar..? I tried the Search but couldn't find any hits to tell me what it is - not that I can't take a guess from the name lol, but just curious.


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Jason Reider
02-08-2013, 08:47 PM
Plant Wash? Sorry to be a noob but I'm not familiar..? I tried the Search but couldn't find any hits to tell me what it is - not that I can't take a guess from the name lol, but just curious.


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Go to AC's SoftWashSystems.com (http://www.softwashsystems.com) site. It's on there.

Derryll Fox
01-19-2015, 07:19 PM
Raising an old thread. Anyone else use a gutter cane to flood the gutters instead of bagging the downspouts?

Ron Musgraves
01-22-2018, 11:09 PM
How many are still Bagging ?

Jamie Schmidt
01-22-2018, 11:15 PM
I still bag on some occasions but rarely need to. We use light applications so run off through gutters is minimal and have ground guy watering and watching run off.

Tony Evans
01-22-2018, 11:19 PM
Gypsum pellets by the downspouts help if you arent fooding the roof with solution.

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