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Mike Fox
01-21-2010, 07:26 PM
I'm hoping someone can help. How much "Ultra" Apple Dawn should be used in 35 gallon tank to clean an asphalt roof???

35 Gallon Tank setup:
17.5 SH 10.2% (Just had it tested.)
17.5 Water
??? ounces Ultra Dawn

Thanks!!!!

Thad Eckhoff
01-21-2010, 07:51 PM
Don't put Ultra Dawn in bleach.
The fumes will kill you.

Use non-Ultra Apple Blossom.

Mike Fox
01-22-2010, 11:42 AM
Whats is the Ultra that makes the fumes????

DJ Carroll
01-22-2010, 12:13 PM
Ajax make the fumes as well .... but i feel it helps clean faster

Ken Fenner
01-22-2010, 01:19 PM
Ajax make the fumes as well .... but i feel it helps clean faster


What is the production rate for an unconscious contractor? :got-hooligan:

Don M.
01-22-2010, 01:48 PM
I thought the Ultra has a label on it saying not to use with bleach.

I use Joy Lemon. No problems. 40 gallons of mix I use 16 oz

Thad Eckhoff
01-22-2010, 02:11 PM
Whats is the Ultra that makes the fumes????

Alcohol. I made that mistake once.

Mike Fox
01-22-2010, 02:31 PM
Can't find Non-Ultra Apple Blossom Dawn. Any stores/websites I can find it at?

Thanks

Thad Eckhoff
01-22-2010, 02:40 PM
I can only find the non Ultra stuff at Dollar General or stores like that.
If you find it buy a bunch of it.

Mike Fox
01-23-2010, 03:02 PM
Thank for the tip. Found 15 bottles at the Dollar Store. Oddly enough, the non-ultra also states "Do not mix with bleach"

Brian Schrecengost
01-23-2010, 05:33 PM
use 1/2 gal your regular degreaser. roofs dont have glass who cares what kind of soap you use. and i know roofs are made of petroleum and degreaser breaks it but not at that ratio

Jon Chapman
01-24-2010, 03:07 PM
If you are concerned with fumes, where a respirator. The ratio you use isn't going to cause your tank to explode, and just plaing bleach will give you fumes you will not like and seriously regret not using a respirator.
The dawn, or any soap for that matter give the bleach some cling and penetrating action. but where a respirator.

Mike Fox
01-27-2010, 01:41 PM
Thanks to all for your replies!!!!

DJ Carroll
01-27-2010, 02:32 PM
respirator is a must have PPE for roof cleaning

Jeff LeCours
02-10-2010, 09:26 PM
We use the Apple Blossom Dawn every day, roofs too. The BLUE Dawn is no good, it gives off a very strong noxious fumes.

Randall Brooks
02-15-2010, 02:18 PM
Just a little tid bit I learned while going through the fire academy is that soap allows water to penetrate 300 percent more than just plain water will by itself. Thats why every fire truck has a big bottle of dish soap to squirt in trash can fires or matrices.

Hot water works better because it is 37 times more abrasive than cold water. Thats why it's almost always the hot water hose that blows on washing machines.

Randy Borio
02-25-2010, 10:33 PM
Hey guys, mixing the Ultra which I am guessing has ammonia, with bleach gives off a gas that I believe is called Hydrogen Cyanide, the same thing that was used in gas chambers. Even with an AIR PURIFYING respirator in a small area like an enclosed truck or trailer YOU WILL DIE. You need a SUPPLIED AIR respirator. I like you all to much to let you try that alone. Friends don't let friends breathe bad air. Learned this one in HAZ-MAT school at the real job. We have cyanide so we had to learn that stuff.

Chris Tucker
10-09-2010, 01:10 PM
Dish Soap for roof cleaning is horribly dated. The new chlorine stable surfactants like Myristamine Oxide and Lauramine have replaced dish soap.

Thad Eckhoff
10-10-2010, 12:29 PM
Dish Soap for roof cleaning is horribly dated. The new chlorine stable surfactants like Myristamine Oxide and Lauramine have replaced dish soap.

But until they become widely available/ easily obtainable non-Ultra Dawn is king.

Chris Tucker
10-29-2010, 01:57 PM
Automatic Dishwasher Soap Liquid Gel works real well in a pinch too. Just be sure to get the kind that HAS Sodium Hypochlorite Bleach in it. It will say so if you read the ingredients. This assures you of a Chlorine stable surfactant.