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  1. #91

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth n Rod View Post
    That's right, I see nothing wrong with it at all. I have lived in Maryland all my life, it's not perfect but it not in bad shape compared to many states.

    Please don't tell me you think what Bernie Madoff did was ok.....because from what you are writing, all this stuff about if they were so stupid it's their own fault, well that doesn't make it right to do.

    Beth
    Told ya, people like this love government. The more government the better. Like I said before, they think its perfectly fine for the government to take money by force so they can give it to who THEY think deserve it. But if I did the same thing they would want me put in jail.

    Tony you will never convince these people, they will continue to say the sky is purple no matter how many different ways you show them its blue.

  • #92

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    Just a quick question after 10 pages of this...

    IF MD adopts a licensing requirement for ...lets say decks washing. What assurance from the State do we have that they will enforce the letter of the law?

    Just curious....
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  • #93

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    Do to this subject being so popular we will have Panel discussion and video tape at NCE events.

    FYI next one WI June 18 & 19
    Not a bad idea Ron, too bad I won't be there. I'd love to be involved in it.
    Henry Bockman 301-216-9675
    Henry's Housework Inc & Commercial Restorations
    13433 Tilford Court Germantown, MD 20874

  • #94

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    Hey Carlos, they enforce it now for deck staining and other services we provide like gutter repairs. They look for contractors that should be licensed to ensure that they are. If not, they are contacted and told they need to become licensed. Quite a few publications won't allow you to run an ad for a service unless you have the license. The MHIC does have power and they do use it to make sure consumers are protected and scam contractors are found and dealt with. They also run spot checks and on occasion, scam checks to make sure contractors aren't ripping people off.

    Sometimes they also call a bunch of contractors for bids on doing work, just to check their license, and to make sure they aren't breaking the law or codes..
    Henry Bockman 301-216-9675
    Henry's Housework Inc & Commercial Restorations
    13433 Tilford Court Germantown, MD 20874

  • #95

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Bockman View Post
    Hey Sontix,

    For a contractor that's a LONG way from Maryland, with very little understanding of how things are actually done here by our State and the MHIC, you sure have a strong opinion on this.

    I honestly believe if you were a contractor in this state, dealing with the problems were dealing with, you might have a different view of things. All we want is laws that make sense (if they are going to have them) and an even playing field that protects our customers and the local PW industry. Does it make sense to require PW contractors that are doing things the right way, to be licensed and NOT the contractors that are doing things the WRONG way?
    Henry, You are on a national board advocating licensing.

    Which is it? Did you put this poll out to find out the opinion of everyone in the US regarding licensing just in Maryland?

    I already told you in a previous post you can do what you want in your own state. If you don't want to hear opinions from other states maybe you should post your poll on a local Maryland Forum.
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  • #96

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth n Rod View Post
    That's right, I see nothing wrong with it at all. I have lived in Maryland all my life, it's not perfect but it not in bad shape compared to many states.

    Please don't tell me you think what Bernie Madoff did was ok.....because from what you are writing, all this stuff about if they were so stupid it's their own fault, well that doesn't make it right to do.

    Beth
    The SEC is highly regulated, watched, investigated and discussed. Experts warned about Madoff as far back as 1999 claiming that his books did not match trades and his claims were mathematically impossible.

    Why were so many stupid people taken in? Because they were lulled into the false security that government with all it's regulations and laws surely would not allow a high profile act like Madoff to operate illegally. They were CONFIDENT that with all the checks and balances put in place by the SEC they would not lose their money due to fraud.

    Further, Madoff was "licensed up" and was well respected by most in the investment world. All the oversight in the world was circumvented while his victims slept like sheep under the warm covers of government protection.

    You have produced yet another perfect example of why we shouldn't be inviting the government into our business.
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  • #97

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    Henry, You are on a national board advocating licensing.

    Which is it? Did you put this poll out to find out the opinion of everyone in the US regarding licensing just in Maryland?

    I already told you in a previous post you can do what you want in your own state. If you don't want to hear opinions from other states maybe you should post your poll on a local Maryland Forum.
    Henry...Tony is right. You parked this out here and on other boards to get opinions and comments. Tony is a long way from MD but regardless of that he is entitled to give his thoughts on this matter.

    Lets all keep it professional. This is a good thread on all the boards! Great feedback!!
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  • #98

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    The SEC is highly regulated, watched, investigated and discussed. Experts warned about Madoff as far back as 1999 claiming that his books did not match trades and his claims were mathematically impossible.

    Why were so many stupid people taken in? Because they were lulled into the false security that government with all it's regulations and laws surely would not allow a high profile act like Madoff to operate illegally. They were CONFIDENT that with all the checks and balances put in place by the SEC they would not lose their money due to fraud.

    Further, Madoff was "licensed up" and was well respected by most in the investment world. All the oversight in the world was circumvented while his victims slept like sheep under the warm covers of government protection.

    You have produced yet another perfect example of why we shouldn't be inviting the government into our business.
    I don't want to invite them here. THEY are already here and we as an industry, need to do SOMETHING to protect ourselves from non-professionals stealing the food off our tables. They take advantage of the fact that the government is in our business but yet doesn't enforce any of the regs that have been set on us.

    My stance is simple...... Let me get away with not paying Workers Comp, Unemployment Insurance, Matching FICA, Abiding by OSHA rules, complying with Clean Water Act, and all the other annoying rules I am expected to play by. Or Hammer the ones that don't play by the rules. (Or remove the rules that say I can't hammer them for stealing from me) Two things we can do... Push for enforcement (which includes licensing) or we push for removal of the regulations ALREADY in place. Either way we as an industry should be coming together to HELP ourselves. Tony is VERY right... I want to help US and not so much a customer that only wants a low price no matter the cost. And yes, I do believe some folks have NO Business being in Business. It takes more than being hungry and trying to fet by. They should come work for those of us that are better prepared to run Businesses.

    Folks think we are wanting to INVITE the Gov. here. Fact is that they are ALREADY here. That is the issue. They are already here allowing folks to steal from me by not enforcing thier own rules.
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  • #99

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    Quote Originally Posted by FCPWLLC View Post
    I don't want to invite them here. THEY are already here and we as an industry, need to do SOMETHING to protect ourselves from non-professionals stealing the food off our tables. They take advantage of the fact that the government is in our business but yet doesn't enforce any of the regs that have been set on us.

    My stance is simple...... Let me get away with not paying Workers Comp, Unemployment Insurance, Matching FICA, Abiding by OSHA rules, complying with Clean Water Act, and all the other annoying rules I am expected to play by. Or Hammer the ones that don't play by the rules. (Or remove the rules that say I can't hammer them for stealing from me) ........
    As highlighted in red above. Which of those highlighted "annoying rules" has been the golden key to removing hacks and protecting homeowners? WC? UI? FICA? Osha? CWA? My point it licensing is just another rule to be broken.

    Look how much sense the rules make now.

    I use temp labor. I've used the same guys for years. Their WC is paid by the staffing company, Yet I have to pay $1000.00 per year to for WC even though I and the other board members have exempted themselves. There is NO LIABILITY on the part of the insurance company but I still have to pay $1000 per year because the Government requires it. The insurance company tells me they understand but it is out of their hands. Stupid.

    What about UI, and Fica? Who cares. I sleep well because I play by the rules. I've been audited twice for two three year periods and came out smelling like a rose because I play by the rules. Who cares what some other guy does. Eventually he will probably be audited.

    Osha is the same way, We've been hit once by Osha, not because we were breaking the rules but because the local (ignorant) osha guy didn't understand the law that clearly states as a business owner I am exempt from Osha Regs. Just another example of the Government stepping in with one of their finest only to be sent limping home.

    Now, so you don't get the wrong idea UI, Fica, and Osha are put in place to PROTECT the worker, not the consumer. I'm not "against" them. They are already there. They apply to everyone, and not just one industry.

    I'm for the second part of our paragraph, get rid of the rules. It's just not possible once the government has a hand in it.

    Please sit down and count up how much all of those things including any licensing you might have that a hack does not have and post how much more per hour you REALLY have to charge to make up the difference. It won't be as much as you think.
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  • #100

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    Henry, You are on a national board advocating licensing.

    Which is it? Did you put this poll out to find out the opinion of everyone in the US regarding licensing just in Maryland?

    I already told you in a previous post you can do what you want in your own state. If you don't want to hear opinions from other states maybe you should post your poll on a local Maryland Forum.
    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos View Post
    Henry...Tony is right. You parked this out here and on other boards to get opinions and comments. Tony is a long way from MD but regardless of that he is entitled to give his thoughts on this matter.

    Lets all keep it professional. This is a good thread on all the boards! Great feedback!!

    Your right, this is a National BBS but all this government conspiracy stuff is a waste of time. My question was Should pressure washing companies be licensed? I didn't ask what your latest conspiracy theory is or this endless banter.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion and we have all heard what Sontix and Rmedbury have to say. Okay, your against it. BUT, let other people have thier own opinion as well, or offer a suggestion or idea instead of tearing apart everything others are saying.
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    Henry's Housework Inc & Commercial Restorations
    13433 Tilford Court Germantown, MD 20874

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