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  1. #71

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    Our founding fathers set up our government based on capitalism. Capitalism IS survival of the fittest. "A fool an his money are soon parted".

    If you hire someone without a referral from a trusted source, you are an idiot. It doesn't matter if they are licensed, unlicensed, or belong to 50 organizations. If you can't find someone else who they performed GOOD work for, you are taking your chances. The government has no responsibility to help you choose a contractor.

    The BBB doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    The Chamber of Commerce doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    The government doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    And on and on etc, etc.

    All this talk about protecting the consumer is just plain BS.

    It's like saying "I really need to spend the money on that new Ferrari! Why? Uh......because it will give me so much more extra storage room in my garage."

    Why all this talk about licenses? Uh....because it will help the consumer. BS

    We all know why licensing is wanted and it has no more to do with the consumer than that extra storage room in the garage has to do with the reason to buy a Ferrari.

    Thinning competition through legislation is immoral and is the reason our country is on the brink of destruction now. It will go on, it's our choice whether or not to participate in it.

    I will find it interesting how many good ole "republicans" jump ship and turn to kiss the rear of legislators when they stand to benefit individually from corruption like that. (I'm not going to judge democrats because they don't understand our government anyway and somehow think the government was put in place 200 years ago to benefit each of them personally.)
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  • #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    Our founding fathers set up our government based on capitalism. Capitalism IS survival of the fittest. "A fool an his money are soon parted".

    If you hire someone without a referral from a trusted source, you are an idiot. It doesn't matter if they are licensed, unlicensed, or belong to 50 organizations. If you can't find someone else who they performed GOOD work for, you are taking your chances. The government has no responsibility to help you choose a contractor.

    The BBB doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    The Chamber of Commerce doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    The government doesn't give a crap about the quality of your work. They want your money.

    And on and on etc, etc.

    All this talk about protecting the consumer is just plain BS.

    It's like saying "I really need to spend the money on that new Ferrari! Why? Uh......because it will give me so much more extra storage room in my garage."

    Why all this talk about licenses? Uh....because it will help the consumer. BS

    We all know why licensing is wanted and it has no more to do with the consumer than that extra storage room in the garage has to do with the reason to buy a Ferrari.

    Thinning competition through legislation is immoral and is the reason our country is on the brink of destruction now. It will go on, it's our choice whether or not to participate in it.

    I will find it interesting how many good ole "republicans" jump ship and turn to kiss the rear of legislators when they stand to benefit individually from corruption like that. (I'm not going to judge democrats because they don't understand our government anyway and somehow think the government was put in place 200 years ago to benefit each of them personally.)
    I dont want to get all political with you Tony, but it is the Republican admin of the past 8 years and other Rep admins and trickle down economics that have brought this country to the brink of destruction. On the same had the present admin is also screwing things up. I dont like 70% of what is going on. I do feel there has to be more regulation. Why, because you cant trust these basta*ds in big Corp, to do the right thing, so regulation I feel is needed, do I trust the gov, thats a hard one, I guess I trust them more than the corps and the greed I have seen. But licensing on small biz or even large will do very little to regulate anything. I voted no on license, because I think it will be nothing but another fee another way for the gov to get money out of us.

    I have no problem with thinning competition, no problem at all. Never going to be able to stop hacks and consumers from being ripped off and I dont think a license of this kind will help. I think present licenses should be monitored, if the complaints come in they pull the lisense, but that isnt going to happen unless crimanal charges are brought against a company, until then the Gov just wants its money whether you are a great company or a hack

  • #73

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    Quote Originally Posted by JL Pressure View Post
    I dont want to get all political with you Tony, but it is the Republican admin of the past 8 years and other Rep admins and trickle down economics that have brought this country to the brink of destruction. On the same had the present admin is also screwing things up. I dont like 70% of what is going on. I do feel there has to be more regulation. Why, because you cant trust these basta*ds in big Corp, to do the right thing, so regulation I feel is needed, do I trust the gov, thats a hard one, I guess I trust them more than the corps and the greed I have seen. But licensing on small biz or even large will do very little to regulate anything. I voted no on license, because I think it will be nothing but another fee another way for the gov to get money out of us.

    I have no problem with thinning competition, no problem at all. Never going to be able to stop hacks and consumers from being ripped off and I dont think a license of this kind will help. I think present licenses should be monitored, if the complaints come in they pull the lisense, but that isnt going to happen unless crimanal charges are brought against a company, until then the Gov just wants its money whether you are a great company or a hack

    We just have a different view of what the government is supposed to stick its nose into.

    If a state wants to dig into your pockets it has all the right in the world to do that. And I have the right to move to a less invasive state like Nevada.

    I brought the conversation to a federal level because the whole idea of the government protecting the stupid is just ludicrous and the argument that licensing has the goal of "helping the consumer" is just as ludicrous.
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  • #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by RMedbery View Post
    Again beth your liberal views are completely wrong. Consumers have no RIGHT of protection. Unless your talking of foreign invasion of course. I know you despise the document but you really should try and actually read the US Constitution some time. Like I said, you will NEVER convince a person who wants more government that less government is better.
    Just because my views are not your view, doesn't make them wrong - at all. The beautiful thing about this country is we are all entitled to our views. Period.

    I simply can't advocate the free reign of hacks. We agree with Henry, and we have see the damage born from hacks who try to operate outside the law just to avoid paying 300 bucks every 2 years. They give the industry a bad name, they make it harder for the next guy to get the work because the consumer is convinced that everyone is the same.

    You do commercial hood work. We do residential work. They are not the same. The license we are discussing is for RESIDENTIAL work.

    Beth
    See Dirt Run!TM Inc.
    Log Home Maintenance & Restoration, Decks & House Washing
    Beth Borrego & Rod Rodriguez
    Office: 301-540-1243
    Germantown, MD * MHIC# 86481 * VHIC# 2705-126609 * BBB
    The Grime Scene BBS Forums

  • #75

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    Just because my views are not your view, doesn't make them wrong - at all.
    Actually it does, and when you realize how horribly flawed your logic is you resort to things like...............oh............banishment from certain BBSs....................SIX times.

    Still, this makes the 3rd or 4th time Ive asked, how does licensing prevent hacks? Not one pro more-government person has been able to explain it. Hint........they cant.............because it doesnt.

  • #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth n Rod View Post
    Just because my views are not your view, doesn't make them wrong - at all. The beautiful thing about this country is we are all entitled to our views. Period.

    I simply can't advocate the free reign of hacks. We agree with Henry, and we have see the damage born from hacks who try to operate outside the law just to avoid paying 300 bucks every 2 years. They give the industry a bad name, they make it harder for the next guy to get the work because the consumer is convinced that everyone is the same.

    You do commercial hood work. We do residential work. They are not the same. The license we are discussing is for RESIDENTIAL work.

    Beth
    Beth, I do see a difference between the commercial end and the residential end. In commercial we have to be insured or we won't get any work. Pm's, business owners, etc all require it. What I'm trying to get across it that the government has no sense. When you bring to them the idea that pressure washers need to be licensed in addition to the current licensing you effectively take it out of your hands and put it into the hands of the government and whichever large pressure washing company donates the most money. That's just how government is run.
    As soon as they start with residential licenses, somebody is gong to see the money that could be made with commercial licenses and will begin a crusade with newscasts and newspaper articles with tag lines like:

    "Unlicensed pressure washers are cleaning your concrete, they may have 3 felonies on their record and there's no oversight".
    or
    "Do you know who is cleaning up your graffiti in YOUR neighborhood?"

    Then over reactive legislation will come up with a lot of unnecessary rules and fees. It will be just like the Clean Water Act - Now I can't wash my car with a hose and run the water in the drain, yet I can drive it in the rain and let mother nature do the same thing.

    You're just asking for trouble.

    Why not get out of the car and go shake hands with the hack when you see them and direct them to a source of higher learning such as this forum instead?
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  • #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by tonyshelton View Post
    Beth, I do see a difference between the commercial end and the residential end. In commercial we have to be insured or we won't get any work. Pm's, business owners, etc all require it. What I'm trying to get across it that the government has no sense. When you bring to them the idea that pressure washers need to be licensed in addition to the current licensing you effectively take it out of your hands and put it into the hands of the government and whichever large pressure washing company donates the most money. That's just how government is run.
    As soon as they start with residential licenses, somebody is gong to see the money that could be made with commercial licenses and will begin a crusade with newscasts and newspaper articles with tag lines like:

    "Unlicensed pressure washers are cleaning your concrete, they may have 3 felonies on their record and there's no oversight".
    or
    "Do you know who is cleaning up your graffiti in YOUR neighborhood?"

    Then over reactive legislation will come up with a lot of unnecessary rules and fees. It will be just like the Clean Water Act - Now I can't wash my car with a hose and run the water in the drain, yet I can drive it in the rain and let mother nature do the same thing.

    You're just asking for trouble.

    Why not get out of the car and go shake hands with the hack when you see them and direct them to a source of higher learning such as this forum instead?
    Hi Tony,
    I'm not saying MD needs a second license, just in favor of adding pressure washing - with or without the use of chems - to the list of work requiring the company to have an MHIC license.

    As for the clean water act, it has not had a huge impact of residential work, and I should not expect it to since the runoff is allowed to go to ground.

    When we see guys working who are "hacks" we DO stop, give them a card, and write the Grime Scene's URL on it. Some join, others give you that "bleep off" look. None have and signage or uniforms. Very sad....

    Have a great day!

    Beth
    See Dirt Run!TM Inc.
    Log Home Maintenance & Restoration, Decks & House Washing
    Beth Borrego & Rod Rodriguez
    Office: 301-540-1243
    Germantown, MD * MHIC# 86481 * VHIC# 2705-126609 * BBB
    The Grime Scene BBS Forums

  • #78

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    I agree that the Government involvement is no good. However, there is a need for US to take an action to either encourage enforcement of the regulations currently imposed on us or remove them. Either way we need to get together on something to HELP us. Tony is correct about it not eliminating hacks. But the current regs we abide by give hacks an unfair advantage to price lower by not abiding by the regulations. It would be great for the UAMCC to be a voice for us and help push one way or another depending on the memberships wishes. Either for enforcement of regs ALREADY in place or to push for less regs.

    I am not endorsing the idea of more regs! Only a push for less or for the regs to be enforced.
    Michael Kreisle
    First Choice Power Washing LLC
    Lexington, KY 859-983-5955
    BBB Member, UAMCC Member, GLAA Member, LBAR Member
    We own and operate a great Cleaning Service in Lexington KY as well as provide
    awesome Pressure Washing and Roof Cleaning services.



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  • #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beth n Rod View Post
    Not so sure about that clear sealer statement....Where is that listed on MD's site?
    Beth
    It's not listed anywhere, that was from one of my monthly phone calls to the MHIC. <G>

    Quote Originally Posted by RMedbery View Post
    Actually it does, and when you realize how horribly flawed your logic is you resort to things like...............oh............banishment from certain BBSs....................SIX times.

    Still, this makes the 3rd or 4th time Ive asked, how does licensing prevent hacks? Not one pro more-government person has been able to explain it. Hint........they cant.............because it doesnt.
    If you read the links Beth listed, it shows that the MHIC is activily doing something to protect consumers and close down hacks.

    Quote Originally Posted by FCPWLLC View Post
    I agree that the Government involvement is no good. However, there is a need for US to take an action to either encourage enforcement of the regulations currently imposed on us or remove them. Either way we need to get together on something to HELP us. Tony is correct about it not eliminating hacks. But the current regs we abide by give hacks an unfair advantage to price lower by not abiding by the regulations. It would be great for the UAMCC to be a voice for us and help push one way or another depending on the memberships wishes. Either for enforcement of regs ALREADY in place or to push for less regs.

    I am not endorsing the idea of more regs! Only a push for less or for the regs to be enforced.
    The links Beth listed show the MHIC enforcing the regs. They activly look for companies that aren't licensed and investigate them. But, if the hacks only advertise on yard signs it's hard to track them all.

    If anyone has photos showing hack work, please email them to me. I'm putting together a presentation to show consumers, and the MHIC.
    Henry Bockman 301-216-9675
    Henry's Housework Inc & Commercial Restorations
    13433 Tilford Court Germantown, MD 20874

  • #80

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    Heres another one of her links.
    Shoddy Contractor's License Revoked



    So like I said, I am right. A license did NOTHING to prevent the hack!

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