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Terry Miller

New member
I hear about many folks doing 100's of thousands of Sq. ft. Who does the little stuff? Is it profitable and how much work do you do a year? We are small compared to many out in PW land. But if we make our profit, it is good. Thank you.
 

Ken Fenner

Active member
Terry, I only take on jobs under 20,000 s/f because I am not equipped for mass concrete work (only one 5.6 gpm hot). The jobs are profitable because I pick and choose them at $.10-$.15 s/f. I had a quarter million dollar/yr contract thrown in my lap but I had to decline it because it required traveling al the way out to your neck of the woods (as well as upstate NY all the way down to D.C) I just don't have the labor set up right yet.
 

Roger Gothorp

New member
I just don't have the labor set up right yet.

Is the operative word "yet" there Ken?

Personally I think that those monster traveling shows are a niche all their own. If a profitable convenient job opportunity should present itself, we very well may take it on, but as with Ken - one hot machine isn't a good way to try to tackle those type jobs. We're little :)

Celeste
 

Ken Fenner

Active member
I've had discussions with with guys that have been with me seasonally for 2 and 3 years. They really want full time work. I really want to see what shakes out with the economy. I also need Jason to handle the residential side. I don't want to be involved (or at the least overly involved) with micro managing multi state endeavors. That means I need a whole commercial division inclusive with management. $250K sounds good and seemingly could cover three crews roving about the northeast. I really want to just focus on internet businesses. After this year my confidence is a little shaken so I want to spend the winter carefully thinking this whole thing out.
 

DJ Carroll

New member
Terry

I have done some post concruction clean up which is really just a rinse, I have done a few parking lots i do a couple 30 day fast food places and i also have a couple bids in for gas stations . . .

I always say that only the owner of a business truly knows at what rate they can be profitable . . . Personally I love the fast foods . . . decent money not really good money like resi work but decent money and the best part is it is money every month . . . between my fast food Rest. I know that my rig and ins is going to get paid every month . . . that take a huge weight off my shoulders . . ..

I like concrete :cool:
 

Roger Gothorp

New member
It's a good place you're in at this stage of your business DJ.

On a personal, off topic note: You are truly a breath of fresh air in this industry. You came in, asked questions, actually followed advise and have really tried to give back to the folks and community that supported you initially. Your success & drive combined with the wonderful trait of appreciation that someone taught you is just really nice. I hope your success continues and that you never lose the qualities you possess now.

Celeste
 

Doug Dahlke

Donating Member
I do some smaller centers. I hope to have contracts on more next year. I have found it difficult to break into these markets because most of the large PM companies have PW companies they already use and others trying to get in. Since many work off of a yearly budget you also need to be in the right place at the right time to get a contract. Then you have to wait another year for more until budgets are done again.

Still waiting for a big break with multiple locations being thrown at me at once. Just have to keep at it. Most of the contact I have with these PM companies comes from cold calling.
 

DJ Carroll

New member
:eek: Gee thanks Celeste . . .I just try to do whats right and live like i was raised . . . the golden rule off treat others as you wish to be treated :)
 

Terry Miller

New member
Ken,
Stay on the East Coast,
Quote: (I had a quarter million dollar/yr contract thrown in my lap but I had to decline it because it required traveling al the way out to your neck of the woods (as well as upstate NY all the way down to D.C)
Be afraid, Be very afraid!!!!!!
Just kidding Ken. I'm gonna paint your neighbors house next week! LOL
 

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Russ Spence

Active member
As the owner of one of the Large traveling shows. I will say this, it is not an easy task. We have been out here for going on 3 years on the roads and we are still working the kinks out. I do enjoy it , but it is not easy.
 
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Carlos Gonzales

New member
As the owner of one of the Large traveling shows. I will say this, it is not an easy task. We have been out here for going on 3 years on the roads and we are still working the kinks out. I do enjoy it , but it is not easy.

Take heed guys.....it can get pretty lonely and interesting on the road all the time.
 
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