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    Quote Originally Posted by PressurePros View Post
    I just look foolish.
    I agree on all points except this one!

    Seriously though, having been an active contributor on the paint forums, its amazing the amount of petty squabbling that goes on. Sometimes we all have to take a deep breath and remove ourselves from a situation here and there. Its so easy to type whatever pops into our heads. We all have to make sure the filter between our heads and keyboards is intact.
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    Scott Burt
    Topcoat Finishes, Inc.

  • #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by PressurePros View Post
    Marko, in the same way you mention "manning up" to get something accomplished the same holds true on these boards. One has to man up and accept that not everyone is going to agree with what a person says or how they say it. The best way to avoid the petty squabbles and conflict is to not invite it. If you do not like the guys from GP, thats okay, just don't go to their forum. I have known many of the GP guys from these forums for a good amount of years. Quite a few I consider friends. They are as welcome here as you are.

    You can help the industry by continuing to post information about things you have learned in business over the years. Rise above the fighting, it never makes anyone look good. I have done it myself and when I go back and reread my posts weeks later it never sounds as good to me as I thought it did originally. I just look foolish.
    Ken i am not fighting.Just like douglas opinion dont i have a right to mine? The funny thing is when a comment comes my way nothing is said but when i comment back on the issue it seems that i am the one at wrong. Why? IS everyone that interpets my writing feel offended? Ken believe me i am not intending to mean any harm,but the way i interpeted dougs comment is i am young and non expieranced. Now i knw we all learn new things daily but my road of life has been a ruff one. I have been through more things then most people can imagine or would even dare to be in. Please answer my question why when my opinion is posted i am jumped on?
    Marko
    CLEANHOODS formally S&M Cleaning Services since 1997
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  • #33

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    Quote Originally Posted by topcoat View Post
    I agree on all points except this one!

    Seriously though, having been an active contributor on the paint forums, its amazing the amount of petty squabbling that goes on. Sometimes we all have to take a deep breath and remove ourselves from a situation here and there. Its so easy to type whatever pops into our heads. We all have to make sure the filter between our heads and keyboards is intact.
    Nicely put
    Marko
    CLEANHOODS formally S&M Cleaning Services since 1997
    call 24/7>>>>>>> (828)632-7688 office
    High quality exhaust system detailer...emergency services available...fair rates....guaranteed inspection approval !
    Owner: Marko
    Visit Cleanhoods at:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cleanhoods/186427068726 or http://twitter.com/ Or E-Mail cleanhoods2002@yahoo.com




  • #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Bryan View Post
    I will be the first to say that the TGP guys have been nothing but nice to you on this board. I gave you the benefit of the doubt before thinking that you may just have felt harassed, I am starting to think that you are just plum of your rocker now man. Thank you Matt.
    Matt some have been nothing but nice to me on THIS board but dougs comment was not a nice thing to throw at me i feel. I have been nice as well havnt i? It just seems i dont get the respect i deserve. I dont understand at all why my comments are "plum off my rocker" but others are just fine. You dont feel dougs was out of line?
    Marko
    CLEANHOODS formally S&M Cleaning Services since 1997
    call 24/7>>>>>>> (828)632-7688 office
    High quality exhaust system detailer...emergency services available...fair rates....guaranteed inspection approval !
    Owner: Marko
    Visit Cleanhoods at:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cleanhoods/186427068726 or http://twitter.com/ Or E-Mail cleanhoods2002@yahoo.com




  • #35

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    Now people i am done "sqabbling" about this as well. Cant we all just get along. Going back to enjoying this bbs.
    Marko
    CLEANHOODS formally S&M Cleaning Services since 1997
    call 24/7>>>>>>> (828)632-7688 office
    High quality exhaust system detailer...emergency services available...fair rates....guaranteed inspection approval !
    Owner: Marko
    Visit Cleanhoods at:
    http://www.facebook.com/pages/Cleanhoods/186427068726 or http://twitter.com/ Or E-Mail cleanhoods2002@yahoo.com




  • #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by cleanhoods View Post
    Matt some have been nothing but nice to me on THIS board but dougs comment was not a nice thing to throw at me i feel. I have been nice as well havnt i? It just seems i dont get the respect i deserve. I dont understand at all why my comments are "plum off my rocker" but others are just fine. You dont feel dougs was out of line?
    Marko
    Lord your loopy. Doug Sr is older than Moses, he merely pointed out that 30 is young, wait till you get his age. How you construed that as a slam against you..................only you would know.

  • #37

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    Marko

    1st off a little explanation about me.

    I have been away from the boards for over a year & a 1/2 for reasons.

    --I run a business and wont let the business run me, so I must continue to keep implementing my layed out plans for the future to keep it self surviving. (A BBS takes away alot of time, and more when they turn into daycares)
    --I also can not stand the bickering, name calling, attitudes, or large ego's (No ones way is the right way, and everyone is here to improve, or should be)
    --I am not new to any of the originals on any of these boards. From Matt Bryan, Alexy, Doug, Douglas, Roger, Anthony, Ken , Carlos, Beth & Rod, or any other I may have forgot.
    --I still keep in touch with many through Gmail, plaxo, cell phones, and other forms of communication. Some just text , type, call or send pictures just to harrass in a playful way. I am used to this and will dish it right back in a playful way. As in the post below to douglas since I still talk to the old greaser on other code, and fire prevention forums.
    You just need a tough skin and remember, most out here just like to have some fun, and not always just show off
    --That was the short list


    Quote Originally Posted by cleanhoods View Post
    Yes i know these guys from this TGP feel they need to always throw negitive comments my way just to.They feel because they are from a web based club,TGP<, they are better then anyone.

    --The Grease Police (TGP) is not a web based club or cult or other.
    They are actual contractors all over the world, and one could be your neighbor or close competitor.
    They may have techniques, and info he or she have learned from them.
    This info one day you wish you would have had (as you pack up your toys for good), because he has used these as ammo to pass your business up and reap the rewards.
    I have a large company that complained and threw names like young school kids towards my company through the customers.
    They called us just hood cleaners because they didn't know our work standards, or anything about us.
    One large Hotel Chain finally told them that while they were to busy looking behing them trying to figure out who we were, that they should actually figure out how we were now in front of them.
    I charge high prices, and am not out to clean every restaurant since we choose customers who are interested in keeping a system clean, (We choose our customers as customers would choose contractors) but with that comes professional service through continuing training, improvements of employees, and business from things I study, and learn everyday
    --The Grease Police as any other board like, The Grime Scene, Original Delco board (Older than dirt but stood the test of time and was awesome), Powerwash Network, Pressure Washing Institute, and the one you are on now The UAMCC Contractor Network, any other I may have forgot have one goal.
    The goal of any board or Org:
    --Is to help every contractor anywhere in the world improve and share their ways, and then improve again with someone elses view. (Like a patent that someone makes, then someone uses the product and, changes it to improve it, and not steal it)
    --It helps others learn from other contractors, and share ideas that save time, money, and lives
    --Is to help everyone including you and I keep up to date on changes in the industry. These are issues that could easily affect your livelyhood.
    Like water usage bans where associations like the one you are on and others, have gone to bat for the contractor without a voice to help keep them up and running and, also help them understand the rules of the small print from the laws, or codes set forth.
    Without many of these boards many including yourself would be blind to the changing industry, rules, laws, codes or other.
    What would happen if they required you to be certified by one special org to continue your grease cleaning empire? You would want to know about this, and when the transition would need to be implemented in your business, if you would be grandfathered in, or if you just needed to take a test to keep from closing down for good.
    Any smart business man would want to know this, or any other info that they could get there hands on to stay above, what everyone would call hacks or lowballers. (I would call them the uninformed)


    Quote Originally Posted by cleanhoods View Post
    What is funny i have been to 3 other bbs's the first was theres,the other 2 just to avoid them then i found this one now they are here just to ride me. Whats funny look at there join most of there join dates.When i got here there was only 1 thread in this forum nothing with them in it and look TGP has arrived to ride old Marko,sorry young Marko lol.

    Marko you may have taken my message to Douglas as ammo for a TGP bashing.
    Please understand that my remark to Douglas was a joke at how he complains of getting older and his whining of staying up late and working early.
    TGP is an Org that is changing the industry for the better with a large group of contractors who have had enough of shoddy work, and low prices from the contractors looking to make the quick buck, and not holding themselves to any standard or accountability.
    I have seen this change over this short time. If contractors become more accountable for their cleanings, there would be less restaurant fires, and loss of life.
    They have helped many in so many ways, and you can see this or hear this from many that have stepped foot in their door.
    The same goes for this board and any other board or org. They all help to make change, and make it easy on everyone. Everyone including you needs to just open the ears, and sometimes close the mouth.
    Everyones opinion is needed including yours, but also dont take things the wrong way, because not everyone is out to get you. Now when you kick the cage of the TGP or any other, don't expect the animals to stay quiet for long.


    Quote Originally Posted by cleanhoods View Post
    Anyways i went to your site very impressive work.Now that is hood cleaning. Like i have said several times, "man up and get up there and exhaust system clean,dont be a ground cleaner,hood cleaning is not magic its work".I have been your way before in flint.That was years ago though.
    Marko
    I do appreciate it

    Just remember to play fair, share, listen , voice your opinion, listen some more, learn, and learn some more.
    If someone gets on your nerves just ignore them. They will eventually get bored and go away.
    Also you have the option to report them to a moderator, but not to the extreme that you did on TGC. That is what brought me out of my cave was all your emails and whining that johnny was poking you with a stick.
    I am still a moderator on another board you complained on, and was also there when TGP first opened their forum doors to help change the industry.

    Just enjoy all the info free at your keyboard, and resist the ones that you think are out to get you.

    If the world was perfect and we all got along then there would be no war, or kids getting beat up in school. Like Tom who got a sore nose in kindergarden for eating my crayons.
    Sorry Tom no hard feeling

  • #38

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    I do get bored easily.

  • #39

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    And on that note..

    Marko take the time to carefully consider what was written above. We have seen many guys come and go. The ones that come back year after year are the guys that use the BBS's as a tool to grow their business. Period. Yes you can make friends and have fun from time to time. Yes there will be disagreements and you can talk those out.

    I cannot speak for the rest of the BBS's but I know my time is torn betwen multiple businesses and this UAMCC endeavor. Babysitting forums is not something I am inclined to add to my plate. This is the reason Carlos and the transition team have adopted a zero tolerance policy of wasteful posting on this forum.

    I will be flat out honest with you and you can take this for what it is worth. You are coming across as whiny and intolerant. You poke people and when they poke back you sound like a little kid "But I didn't dooooo anything". C'mon man. I have mentioned to you on a couple of occasions that you are welcome here and I meant it. Last time I will plead with you to follow forum ettiquette. If you are unsure of what forum ettiquette is, refrain from posting for awhile until you get the rhythm of how this baord and others are run.

    While I despise heavy handed moderating and censorship, this thread has run its course and will be closed. If anyone would like to continue what started as a good discussion, shoot someone on the transition team a pm and we can pare back the extraneous stuff and reopen it.
    Ken Fenner
    PressurePros, Inc
    House Washing
    Pressure Washing Companies




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