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    Default What would you do?

    I have a condo project that is supposed to start in two days. I was awarded this project towards the end of last year. It involves vynil siding wash of all buildings, all driveways and sidewalks on the premise. It is a $20,000 project.
    I got a call today from a former board member of the complex today asking what my process for cleaning is and what solutions do I use. I explained my process for the vinyl siding of low pressure with the use of sh and Russ's BD200 as an additive. He asked how do I collect the solution water coming off the sides of the building and I told him that I dont and per regs it is allowed to go on landscape and let naturally filter in the ground while we wet alot to get chems under root line to not affect plants. He was irrate that "I will be spraying poison all over the property". He then asked for my procedure on the concrete cleaning which I explained to him that I will be plugging up the storm drains and diverting all the waste water and will sump it to landscape again. Again irrate that I will be poisoning the land. He then explained to me that he will make an example of me to the current board on how they made a bad decision on hiring me since he was booted off the board.
    Later in the day I got a call from the city water bureau or something like that and they told me that I was reported by this guy. The said they will be there upon start of project and thruout the project to inspect my practices and make sure I am compliant thruout the whole job. I had to explain to him my procedures again and he made a mention that the vinyl wash practise is ok as long as it is a very mild solution..... this concerns me cause of what they will interpret as mild... what will they do when they get a good whiff of chlorine in the air required to clean properly. Second he said he was not sure but will look into the practice of letting wastewater on landscape via sump pump. But either way he is sure I can only do so much saturation and if it starts to runoff from area I am not compliant.

    What would you do?
    1. It will be a sure thing that there will be an enviromental guy there to inspect thruout a 2 week process
    2. Any little accidental misshap of drain to stor drain will probably be an automatic fine since they will be there
    3. ex board member will be there screaming to the community that I am poisoning their property.
    Florin Nutu
    ALL WASHED UP EXTERIOR CLEANING LLC
    206-380-4555

    Seattle Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing
    email--- allwashedupexterior@gmail.com

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    Edited after Florin cleared up the BOD part, originally stated an ex-bod and I thought from this industry not from the apartment association.
    Last edited by Chris Tharpe; 05-25-2010 at 12:21 AM. Reason: misunderstud information

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    I would contact the BOD and get more info about this guy. You may be able to use this info to explain the problem to the enviro guy. Check your laws well, you may have to postpone this project and really talk to the BOD, explain you are doing things right, but any mishap you could be liabale. You may have to make them liable

    What a shame, there are some crazy people, real PITA's in this world

    Good luck

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    I am sorry... it is a ex board member of the property. Not BOD of the UAMCC. I edited post
    Florin Nutu
    ALL WASHED UP EXTERIOR CLEANING LLC
    206-380-4555

    Seattle Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing
    email--- allwashedupexterior@gmail.com

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    Hey Florin I would still do the job. There is a lady in Florida (Guys help me here) that post on PWI that sells a product from what I hear makes chlorine smell like Spice Apple. I would look into that. Don't let this guy scare you from making money on an agreed contract. I had a somewhat similar problem last year when were contracted to clean a condo complex and the ex Board member from that Condo complex was trying like heck to kill my deal so he could get his son in who lost his job at a bank.

    End result it was the second time I cleaned that Condo Complex in the last 5 yrs and its the second time we got paid over $12,000 to do it. Stick to your guns and just be smart about it.

    Good luck

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    unless you drape the stupid building there is no way to catch wastewater runoff that is falling on grass?

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    I can see it now. Manufacturers lined up at city council meetings describing their latest gizmos like:

    The "CribVac" - A vacuum system using power taken from the power panels of the house being cleaned and the two houses on each side to quickly suck up all runoff on all four sides of the house at once. It only costs $500 in electricity to be "environmentally compliant".

    And

    The "RoofJimmyHat" - a large latex cover that goes over the entire roof - the technician is forced to work inside where his lungs are used as a human filter leaving nothing but a harmless carbon dioxide residue (which will have to be offset with carbon credits of course)



    Florin, having been on a couple of and HOA BOD's it's almost a guarantee that this guy is known for causing trouble. If it were me I'd ask for help from the BOD and ask for one of the members to accompany you on the first day to help you deal with the city guy and explain that this is all about competition and nothing to do with compliance.
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    I would try to get the BOD on your side.
    Pressure washing in Pa.
    Brian Wendling
    Rolling Suds Inc.
    www.Rollingsudsinc.com

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    They are definately on my side. They even offered to allow me to increase the price some due to the hassles and understand my labor will probably go up being extra careful on everything. And that is correct that the guy has a track record for being a jerk and is why he got booted off the board but they said he has never gone to extremes like calling city and such.

    Does anybody have a copy of national bmp's on wastewater discharge (particularly where it states it can go to landscape) handy? The city guy actually asked ME for a copy cause I guess he cant find anything local?
    Florin Nutu
    ALL WASHED UP EXTERIOR CLEANING LLC
    206-380-4555

    Seattle Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing
    email--- allwashedupexterior@gmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by FLORIN View Post
    They are definately on my side. They even offered to allow me to increase the price some due to the hassles and understand my labor will probably go up being extra careful on everything. And that is correct that the guy has a track record for being a jerk and is why he got booted off the board but they said he has never gone to extremes like calling city and such.

    Does anybody have a copy of national bmp's on wastewater discharge (particularly where it states it can go to landscape) handy? The city guy actually asked ME for a copy cause I guess he cant find anything local?
    Call Robert Himderliter, he might be able to help you. maybe the PWNA, UAMCC could give this city guy a call

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