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  1. #31

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    Maybe we should look into Atlantic City. I know I heard that you have to use Union labor but I'm thinking that you just may be able to block off a small amount of rooms and they may give you a deal because they want you to gamble. If the committee wants I can look into this to get some prices if anyone wants me to. if you live a few states away you can even get a bus ride for nothing with around $30 to gamble with free of charge. There are a few airports around AC and AC has many things to do besides gamble. There are some Morton Steak houses right in the Hotels if people like to eat high end and there is alot of great shows that people can go to and its all a write off.

    The proglem with AC is the Unions but I may be able to work around them possibly but I would have to find out what it is that they do.

    I could probably have the answers within 3 weeks if this is a possibilty. My goal would be to get the rooms cheap, Find out what the Convention hall would cost etc etc and also what the deal with the Unions.

  • #32

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    To do any of the above we need asap a Poll when its the best time to have a Convention and give it a two week time table so we can move along instead of just floating "Out at see"

    I'll put the poll up for the time frame and where we have it we still have time for that but we need some dates so we can look into getting prices for the potential convention.

    Doing the post right now.

  • #33

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    Guys, please take the word convention out of this.

    Please lets be realistic, the mistake made was having a convention to soon. 2012 is a year I could support a convention. The UAMCC needs more members right now, Carlos was on the right path following NCE around getting members to join.

    The problem is conventions are expensive and if they are not run correctly they could devistate the org. $$$

    Stick with low costs meetings, membership drives until the UAMCC has 150 members.

    Convention hopes are just setting you up for failure.

    You have had small success with a NCE meeting. Duplicate that and find more success in that. Conventions are dreams much further down the road, build a foundation and plan for the future.

    Thats helping and respresenting at the these local meeting all around the country.

    KY, AL, FL, GA, PA, TX,

    Trevor keeps telling me he wants to have a meeting. Do it and plan it to be big....SC is always big.

    Get the KING to host a party in SC if Trevor doesnt. The KING is always ready to party.

    Charge everyone the same price and host it as a membership fund raiser party. Everyone that comes is joining or stay home.

  • #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    Guys, please take the word convention out of this.

    Please lets be realistic, the mistake made was having a convention to soon. 2012 is a year I could support a convention. The UAMCC needs more members right now, Carlos was on the right path following NCE around getting members to join.

    The problem is conventions are expensive and if they are not run correctly they could devistate the org. $$$

    Stick with low costs meetings, membership drives until the UAMCC has 150 members.

    Convention hopes are just setting you up for failure.

    You have had small success with a NCE meeting. Duplicate that and find more success in that. Conventions are dreams much further down the road, build a foundation and plan for the future.

    Thats helping and respresenting at the these local meeting all around the country.

    KY, AL, FL, GA, PA, TX,

    Trevor keeps telling me he wants to have a meeting. Do it and plan it to be big....SC is always big.

    Get the KING to host a party in SC if Trevor doesnt. The KING is always ready to party.

    Charge everyone the same price and host it as a membership fund raiser party. Everyone that comes is joining or stay home.
    You are right on Ron. Actually the BOD in another post said this will not be a convention at all this year. You are pretty smart sometime for a pressure washing guy

  • #35

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    Convention,Meeting,get together.. yea they can change all of that. The point being when do they want to have the "Big Get Together". Ron I just said the word Convention to mean the above. Who knows what Convention Committee is going to come up with on this. Thats a good title for another thread.

    Either way its the members and BODS that make these decisions. Where just yapping on the net to draw interest.

  • #36

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    Ron,
    My point with using Matt's RT was to say that a meeting could be done at a cheaper venue than Orlando. It does not need to be an out of this world thing.....It does not matter what you call it convention or get together. I am not saying to involve the distributors in setting up the event, but if vendors could fund a lot of it for the betterment of the organization, that would be a good thing.
    Perhaps, Ron can be on the committee. NCE's resources could be a benefit to all. In addition, the respect of the org in the future will depend on the number of members and the funds that it can raise to benefit the industry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves View Post
    The problem with Matt being involved is that he is a Distributor. He was a distributor at the time of the albany roundtable. 43 people at that Round was distributor affiliated out of the 93 attendees.

    Don't take this wrong Matt could help along with other distributors.

    Matt should host a meeting for the UAMCC like NCE has offered and should promote the industry along with his business.

    NCE does not want to be exclusive in anyway. NCE will pay for a venue and the UAMCC can have a membership drive with no expense to the org.

    The UAMCC should offer this to every Associate member and partner up to have Distributors carry the burden of these expenses to promote the industry.

    NCE suggest that the UAMCC have a Small educational certification seminar in the name of membership Drive. Every attendee gets a membership and certification. Place these smaller meeting throughout the country and this org will have 1000 members before next year.

    Let the Distributors bare the burden and the costs in the name of support for cleaners around the world.

    I know at least four dist that would particpate. Including a major one on the west coast.

  • #37

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    I want to make sure that I'm kept informed. I will be checking the board regularly, but would like to be able to feature UAMCC news/updates in our new online magazine (which will premiere next month), Pressure Cleaning Contractor. Also want to post updates on our website. We want to be a voice and resource for ALL pressure washing contractors.
    Allison Hester
    Editor
    eClean Magazine
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    allison@ecleanmag.com

    501-517-1620

  • #38

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    Here's My point, people used the org last year for there own means. They didnt disclose they were distributors, they joined as regular members had events in the name or contractors and actually used the org for there own personal gains.

    The new BOD has a grip on some of the past happenings. NOW please understand that I'm for all of what you said. I support the org and the people that used it should now step forward swallow Crow and step up and Join as the distributors they are. There was more than one, one even got elected which I thinks kind of comical. ( CONRACTOR FOR CONTRACTOR ORG) LOL

    Thats all in the past but should be rememebered and what these people do in the future with the org should be noted.

    Quote Originally Posted by NJWashingGuy View Post
    Ron,
    My point with using Matt's RT was to say that a meeting could be done at a cheaper venue than Orlando. It does not need to be an out of this world thing.....It does not matter what you call it convention or get together. I am not saying to involve the distributors in setting up the event, but if vendors could fund a lot of it for the betterment of the organization, that would be a good thing.
    Perhaps, Ron can be on the committee. NCE's resources could be a benefit to all. In addition, the respect of the org in the future will depend on the number of members and the funds that it can raise to benefit the industry.

  • #39

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    Oh. even in my absense from the BBS, It is still nice to know people are still thinking about me. I would like to take a minute to clarify a few diluted misconceptions that have been put out here about my role as a distributor, holding a round table for personal gain and the inaccuracies of the vendor / contractor mix at the Albany event.

    First of all, I agree with you Mike, a good event can be done for less money than Orlando.... You can put on an event that offers hot meals to the contractor, a superb lunch buffet and tangible information to the contractors that they can use in business all included in the price of the event. I chose that route as opposed to a FREE event, that some have offered - where the free events in the past have charged for special sessions (99.00 to learn how to tie your shoes) , and have people eat out on their own.

    I chose the format to make it convienent for the contractors, and the cost of the event.... no one cared. The other misnomer out there is that I hid behind the scenes as a distributor holding the event for personal gain. The reality of the situation is this.... by the time I got through with the event, I promoted every major distributor in the country - ACR. Delco, Sunbrite, Pressure Tek, Sirroco, Haynes Reels, Soap Warehouse, AR Pumps of NA, Goodyear and Syntek. These are just a few of the distributors that I promoted. I did not charge them 100, 200 500, or 800 to set up or show up. I remember Pete M. commenting on the transparancey of the event. All distributors that were in attendance were introduced - the 8 or 10 that were there (LOL not 43).

    At the time of the event, my wife and I were selling a few parts to school bus garages and highway departments and rarely a section of hose to a local contractor if they were in a jam. I did not hold that event for personal gain as a distributor - nor did I consider ourselves (Wife and I) as a distributor. In fact, we really started the a formal distributorship this year.

    So I want to make something clear, especially for the ignorant misinformed megalomaniacs that may have any misinformed facts about the event. First, I paid dearly for the NY Event. By the time the bills (advertising, postage, equipment rental, ect.), meeting room rental, comped rooms and seminar food was paid for, my wife and I laid out over 2100.00 of our own money to put on an educational seminar for contractors thus bringing in the distributors for the contractors to put faces to the checks they write for supplies and equipment year around. Not to mention the time my wife put into the event that was held on her Birthday.The one alledged distributor (my company) that was present, not once talked about selling equipment or promoting a distributorship. I did promote all other distributors and sponsors at every opportunity and promoted the UAMCC at that time, delivering (i think) 20 or 21 new members to the UAMCC doorstep. Yea.... I really scored BIG personal gains with this event!

    Regarding joing the org as a distributor as one has suggested... First, I dont give a dam what his opinion or thoughts are, he is like a broken record that skips and keeps repeating the same old thing, but there are many on the BBS that I respect. We have two entities... Distributorship and a contract cleaning company. There is no value in joining as a distributor, the membership is low and a current and updated business plan has not been offered from the new board.... I know they are busy and I know it will come. They are doing a good job and I think they are getting the Org back on track. But the decision to join, when and if I ever do, will simply come down to Return on Investment, both percieved and actual ROI. Business is business. We currently focus on municipalities, trucking companies and the end user to sell products and equipment to, In fact I have referred people to other distributors closer to them for parts, equipment and accessories.

    Apparently because I have a distributorship, I an unable to have my contract cleaning company rejoin the UAMCC. I respect the BOD stance on this and understand their reasoning. It will effect more than just me. Mike Hinderlighter has a distributorship and a contract cleaning company as do many others. So I know I was not singled out and prohibited from joining as a member.


    Thank for keeping me in your thoughts, Don't get over here much and I actually think this is the first time I have posted in over a month. I wish everyone a good holiday. I am still looking at a spring educational event, we will see if it comes together.

    Matt
    Last edited by Mathew Johnson; 11-20-2010 at 10:35 PM.
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  • #40

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    by the way whats in the works for this conventin, is there anything being planned or anyone working on this?

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