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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Evans View Post
    You misunderstood me Guy. I don't mind opposing views. As an org we can't and shouldn't want everyone to be a part of it. If you have a direction that others oppose and those others can infiltrate the group in sufficient numbers then that will derail the positive things happening. Not everyone is a good fit for the org. That's a simple fact. We need to keep moving forward and help those who can be helped while watching our backs for those who would creep in and disrupt what is being built. It's a fine line I'll admit but one that any org facing opposition as this one is should be careful to keep drawn. Just my opinion.
    UUuMmm Tony, The UAMCC is a National Non-Profit Organization not a private club. As long as those that want to be Members fit Membership criteria and pay the membership fee...Their In. Whether they agree or disagree with Leadership or direction...Their In. We don't pick and choose who's a Member and who's not, and I know for a fact Ron agrees with this also.

    If I misunderstood your other post this one certainly clarifies your opinion, which you have every right to, but one I strongly disagree with.

  • #122

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    You are right about one thing Guy, this is just another example of where Ron and I strongly disagree.

    The UAMCC has a mission statement and a goal. It doesn't matter if a prospective member walks on water, if they are openly speaking against that mission they are not fit for membership.

    Not for profit orgs are not required to add members who are against their goals. If that were the case any religious organization could easily be wiped out by infiltration by members joining for the sole purpose of disbanding them.

    How would your opinion change if an atheist group joined your church and began teaching your kids that there is no God in their classrooms behind your back. Or took over the church and elected atheist elders for the purpose of shutting the church down.

    I welcome anyone who joins for the purpose of advancing the industry even if they disagree. But if they have made it known that they intend to destroy rhr org or can't be trusted to deal with others honestly they are not for for membership.

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  • #123

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    And this is just another example. I love Guy Blackmon like a brother. He is one of the finest men I have ever met. But we disagree on this. We disagree while still holding true to the goals and mission of the UAMCC and we still remain friends. There is a big difference between disagreeing on details and having opposite goals

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  • #124

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    Well said Tony. If you let those types in you might as well close the doors. Some are misled and you might (and I stress might) be able to help them. Others are only in it for themselves and they should be kept out. The org isn't about whether you "meet criteria and have a checkbook" it's about the betterment of the industry. Some aren't interested in that.
    Let me just say the I was first aware of the UAMCC back when I was a member off the Master Window Cleaners of America and our, then President, decided to have us join the UAMCC as set up by R Hinderlighter. The director and others said no and as I looked into what that version of what the UAMCC was then I realized it wasn't for me either. When I was approached by Ron to look at the UAMCC as a window cleaner I was skeptical until I realized where the org was heading. I joined because I agreed with that direction and thought I could help. I question anyone who joins or is a member and yet is openly opposed to the direction of the group.
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  • #125

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    I don't believe in barring anybody from anything for life. People sometimes change. But if that is the case they have to be willing to show they have changed. Some wanted to ban Carlos for mistakes he made. Carlos has shown not only by his speech, but his actions that banning him would have been a big mistake. He is a leader and an asset to our industry.

    Mistakes are one thing. Outright deception is another. One former board member accepted a position on the board while secretly setting up another org. Then used his insider knowledge of the UAMCC to build his own private org. All while using his bod position to suggest disbanding the UAMCC altogether.

    It would take a lot more than just words for a person like that to ever be accepted as a member. At least that's my opinion.

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  • #126

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    Perfect example Mr Shelton!

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  • #127

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    I have a responsibility to all members to Keep order. Anyone is welcome as long as they are professional and Behave. Behave doesn't mean they can't disagree, just we all can get along.

    People who are saying things about the org , hateful things should never be in the org. Its just not the way you change things.

    i know Guy has a Big heart and whats to be Fair to all. The problem trying to please everyone often will make more miserable.

    The org has a path and those willing to jump on to support this path are welcome. Those who do not think we are on track should look for alternatives.

    Why do people think everyone is going to fit this org?

    i'm proud of all the members who have stepped up to show support.

  • #128

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Shelton View Post
    And this is just another example. I love Guy Blackmon like a brother. He is one of the finest men I have ever met. But we disagree on this. We disagree while still holding true to the goals and mission of the UAMCC and we still remain friends. There is a big difference between disagreeing on details and having opposite goals

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    Thanks ya Big Goober, Love Ya Back!

    Your last 2 sentences are absolutely spot on!!!

    I am all for people who want to join that have the same ideals and position as the UAMCC, I just can't wrap my head around why anyone would join that doesn't have the same thought process as the Org. Surely they would have done their due diligence and researched the direction of the Org. Would I want someone to join that would damage the Org.??? Of course not, but I'm not going to be paranoid as to who's trying to "Infiltrate" the Membership. So what are we going to do, profile potential Members? Is there going to be a questionnaire to fill out before a Member is allowed to join? Swear allegiance to the UAMCC forsaking all others?

    The whole vibe of this sounds all to familiar, and makes me uncomfortable.

  • #129

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Blackmon View Post
    Thanks ya Big Goober, Love Ya Back!

    Your last 2 sentences are absolutely spot on!!!

    I am all for people who want to join that have the same ideals and position as the UAMCC, I just can't wrap my head around why anyone would join that doesn't have the same thought process as the Org. Surely they would have done their due diligence and researched the direction of the Org. Would I want someone to join that would damage the Org.??? Of course not, but I'm not going to be paranoid as to who's trying to "Infiltrate" the Membership. So what are we going to do, profile potential Members? Is there going to be a questionnaire to fill out before a Member is allowed to join? Swear allegiance to the UAMCC forsaking all others?

    The whole vibe of this sounds all to familiar, and makes me uncomfortable.
    We have a responsibility to our members to do our due diligence in keeping the org on track. There is no need to profile. We have taken on many new members recently who didn't care much for Ron or me till they met us and realized they had been fed a bunch of false propaganda. Those guys will probably end up being very effective members because we need members who can evaluate situations on their own and make their own judgements.

    On the other hand there is a small group that perpetuates the lies and would love to destroy what is being built. It's not rocket science. If these guys try to join they should be evaluated. Don't think it can't happen. It has already happened once. It will happen again.

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  • #130

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    It's pretty simple really. Watch what they say on other groups or boards. If they are party to the negative talk about the org and then want to join it should send up a red flag.
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