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2- step application

application method?


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Paul Kassander

UAMCC Associate Member
I used to do upstream but it was tearing up my equipment. Since switching to downstream it lasts much longer and results are basically the same.
 

Detail Pro

New member
I am want to two step as well. Can some one walk me through the process. I hate brushing the equipment, takes to long.
 

Trevor Steel

New member
come on fleet guys how do you apply. I down stream as Paul said it is easier on your pump, but also keep m-5's handy just in case something goes wrong on the job site.
 

OKWASHER

New member
I have been 2 stepping for about 1 1/2 years now, I downsstream also, I use an adjustable injector, hydrofloric acid first, I know this may not apply to everyone else but, I run mine while on acid about an 1/8 to 1/4 turn depending on how dirty they are, and try to stay off glass, once the acid is on you need to hurry and get the degreaser on to nuteralize the acid. switch to my degreaser, and run it about double the ratio 1/4 to 1/2 on the injector, then rinse and you will never wash anyother way i promise. you can also use the acid in the line after switching to your degreaser to flash the aluminum tanks or wheels. MAKE SURE YOU WEAR ALL SAFTEY GEAR TO PREVENT ACID FROM COMING INCONTACT WITH YOU SKIN. everyone I talked to about hydrofloric acid got me scared to use it, so I started two stepping with citric acid till I was comfortable with the process, then switched to the good stuff. citric acid works, but the price difference is unbelievable, and the citric is not nearly as hot as the hydrofloric, but be careful it can and will kill you. AGAIN THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY BUT IT WORKS GOOD FOR ME. hope this helps.
 

Florin Nutu

New member
I have been using a combination of downstream and xjet. Have the acid on the downstream and the ph solutin on the xet since when I put on the xjet it stops drawing the acid.

For those that downstream both.... Do you switch over to each chem at the truck?
 

Lonnie Greenwood

New member
come on fleet guys how do you apply. I down stream as Paul said it is easier on your pump, but also keep m-5's handy just in case something goes wrong on the job site.
This is the way i wash i make sure every thing is wet then i spray my chems and i rinse i brush when i need to brush.:clap::clap::clap::clap:
 

OKWASHER

New member
I have to go back to my truck, and switch the injector line from acid to degreaser. I am in the process of building a solenoid that I can switch back and forth that is wireless.
 

OKWASHER

New member
I never acid what do you use and why do you acid
I use a hydrofloric acid, it is called appocolipse, KO sells it. I do not two step everything. a lot of the time there is a film left on the vehicle your washing, my soap melts dirt and grease, and leaves a great shine for the most part, but if you wipe the side of the vehicle with your finger you can see a line, that is where you should have brushed the truck right. When you apply the acid first, then the degreaser it is as good as brushing if not better if done right. it will take off surface rust, it brightens aluminum makes chrome shine, and I could go on and on. BUT AGAIN I AM SCARED TO DEATH OF THIS STUFF. IF YOUR GOING TO USE HF YOU NEED TO HAVE RESPECT FOR IT. I have 1 acount that has 35 trucks, I can 2 step all of then in 3-3.5hrs, by myself, if i had to brush then i would be there for hours. I was alone, but if i had some cheap help i mught brush more trucks.
 

Lonnie Greenwood

New member
I use a hydrofloric acid, it is called appocolipse, KO sells it. I do not two step everything. a lot of the time there is a film left on the vehicle your washing, my soap melts dirt and grease, and leaves a great shine for the most part, but if you wipe the side of the vehicle with your finger you can see a line, that is where you should have brushed the truck right. When you apply the acid first, then the degreaser it is as good as brushing if not better if done right. it will take off surface rust, it brightens aluminum makes chrome shine, and I could go on and on. BUT AGAIN I AM SCARED TO DEATH OF THIS STUFF. IF YOUR GOING TO USE HF YOU NEED TO HAVE RESPECT FOR IT. I have 1 acount that has 35 trucks, I can 2 step all of then in 3-3.5hrs, by myself, if i had to brush then i would be there for hours. I was alone, but if i had some cheap help i mught brush more trucks.
I guess i have never had to do that my soaps work great and when i rinse there is no film on them at all and they are very shiny and i have my customer to come out and take a look and when they run there hands across the surface and it comes back clean they are happy.
 

Florin Nutu

New member
I guess i have never had to do that my soaps work great and when i rinse there is no film on them at all and they are very shiny and i have my customer to come out and take a look and when they run there hands across the surface and it comes back clean they are happy.

Are you having to scrub though?
 

OKWASHER

New member
I think I use one of the best soaps around, KO #355 trailer brite. when I say you can wipe the side of the trailer with your finger and see a line, that is when its wet. after it dries it is a different story. I wash a lot of nasty fleet trucks, and I do not brush, but its hard for me to believe you can presoak a truck with just soap, then high pressure rinse and get a dirty truck clean. are you high pressure soap washing and then high pressure rinsing? brushing? maybe double soaping?
 
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