My only question at this time is Who exactly is Chief of the storm water department, whats his name, email, and phone number where he can be reached? So that I may collaborate the story myself.
Did you corroborate the story?
What is the problem? If the story is true give me their contact info. PWNA had no problem releasing their sources, either did Eclean Magazine. I just don't want it for me I want it for anyone else that wants to corroborate the story. And saying contact Scott Stone isn't good enough. Post it here or this is moot to me. MEANS it holds no weight. Have some validation made.
Did you make any validation?
I have nothing to check because you haven't realeased your sources. If there are sources release them so that we can see. Go back to my original question.
You will have seen the email from Mr. Boon by now... Back to your original question - did YOU corroborate the story?
What are you talking about guy? Their source was released. It was released several times. Here I'll release it again.
Jenna Voss, Environmental Resource Specialist
OC Public Works - OC Watersheds
2301 N. Glassell Street, Orange, CA 92865
jenna.voss@ocpw.ocgov.com
714.955.0672
Stop beating around the bush.
In the interest of not beating around the bush, drop the 'smart alec' conversation diversion and shed some light on what you know. I am a concerned UAMCC member, just like you - my inquiring mind wants to know what else there is that you obviously feel further complicates this issue.
So its her boss that UAMCC contacted? Just want to clarify so I know who to speak with. Does he have a first and last name and an email?
This thread is JUST full of smart alecs.
... Beating around the bush.
Only those that lack intelligence have to revert to smart alec remarks. When you got nothing to say you go to that, and that my friends is truly pathetic. If the UAMCC ever truly wants to be serious contender it better stop with the immature and unprofessional status it is known for. If it does that maybe, just maybe they'll call you guys instead of PWNA. There's a reason why OC called PWNA and not The UAMCC. Try acting like a professional org instead of a joke. This is especially important to those on The BOD.
This issue isn't about who OC called - it is what they called for... To help raise awareness of a workshop they were organizing.
In reference to acting like a joke - how is it a joke to try and find the truth for concerned members? The joke is the spinning, accusations, innuendo and half truths being spewed everywhere. If there is something to refute Mr. Boon's words - put it out there in its entirety.
Tony you have some of the information.... not all. Unless you have the full picture all your stating is speculations. I doubt that we'll ever get the fulll story or what has really been going on unless OC watersheds decides to make an official statment themselves. So I guess in the end we'll never know.
Do you have it all? Because this issue could be put to be bed if it is released.
Do you sincerely believe that as a Vice President of a national org that being a smart alec is a representing the UAMCC in the best professional light? You are right Doug there is a time and a place that you could be a smart alec and behave like child, however this is not the time nor the place. Another question for you Doug. When you meet a high corporate person (say for an estimate) what is your expectation of them? Do you expect him to wag his finger at you and say smart alec things, or do you expect him to be the professional he is?.......... you know I just realized something as I was writing that. Maybe I expect to much from The BOD. Maybe I expect more from you Doug, more from Ron, more from Tony, and more from the entire BOD because I see this org as a national org. Maybe I just need to stop thinking of it as that, because it's just not ready to put at that level right now. When you write on here you are writing as The Vice President of a national org, or do you not get that? Think about it.
Mr, Evans you have lost all respect from me and I don't have anything nice to say to you. My mother said if you can't say something nice don't say nothing at all. So I'm keeping my mouth shut. But please call me anytime and I'll be happy to tell you how I REALLY feel about you.
... Good idea on the mouth suggestion.
Respected by whom? By the members? If your org is the biggest, strongest, and the best org out there today tell me why OC never heard of you until recent events? huh?
... Uh oh... Bang goes that idea.
Here's the thing Kris, since your initial issues with Ron not visiting you or calling you sometime long ago, that you brought up on PWI a while back (and everything else since). You have been an antagonist at times... This may go a long away to explain others attitudes towards you.
For the longest time I have say on the fence and observed from afar, only offering some input here and there... Guess what, no smart Alec remarks came my way.
With this recent issues I have been more vocal (and had smart Alec remarks for some people)... Thing is, I fully expect them back. Which has been the case! It doesn't bother me though, I'm a grown ass man and if I dish it out, I fully expect it back.
